A Look At The Wharfedale SFB3 Using Modern Drivers
Part 1
https://www.inner-magazines.com/audiophilia/wharfedale-sfb3/
The link above gives an overview of the Wharfedale SFB3 open back speaker system and contains some high quality photos of front and rear views.
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and Open Back? Why the SFB3? Well, to be honest about
that, nostalgia. I've had a thing for pre-1960's Wharfedales since
I was seventeen. https://www.ln271828.net/briggs.htm
Any open back will have similar acoustical properties versus a sealed or ported enclosure, the main deficiency of the open back is the lack of lower bass. As with any speaker system, the location of the system in any particular room will have quite a substantial effect on the sound. The thing about open back systems is their open sound. If you've heard a Magnepan, you'll know what I mean. They, too, suffer from lack of low bass. Having a collection of vintage Wharfedale speakers, those with the cool looking red magnets, it was decided per a suggestion from a friend in New York to build one, just for schitts 'n giggles. To say the least, I was quite astounded by the sound and that was from hearing only one, mono, not stereo. A link to a technical overview of that system is here. https://www.ln271828.net/SFB3.html The review posted by Inner magazines (top) praises the midrange but that may have been by listening at moderate levels around 80dB and I'll agree with that. However, the type of music being played as well as who's doing the listening can dictate how loud to play. In my case, Rock 'n Roll, 60's and 70's rock, Rockabilly, Country and the like usually find their way above 90dB and sometimes close to 100dB. A consistent diet of SPLs above 95dB can, and will, do permanent damage to the ears and such damage is irreversible. Although small, it is cumulative. At these high levels, female vocals can be close to ear shattering. That's due in part to the response of the twelve and the ten inch units, See Figs. 6, 7 & 8 here. https://www.ln271828.net/SFB3.html Measures were taken as described on that page so there's no point in reiterating them here.
The next thing was to search for modern drivers to use in the SFB. Again, just about any OB will suffice but the style of the SFB seems appealing. The problem with its dimensions is that it provides no room to front fire the Super 3 tweeter, the response of which falls like a rock after 8khz if upward pointed. A more modern tweeter with a sensitivity around or above 98dB, 1w1m, would do much better pointing towards the ceiling. The search began with the woofer, then the so called midrange and then, the tweeter. (and then Along Came Jones)
The Woofer Although a very satisfactory bass output was achieved with the W12FS, a slightly higher output can be realised with a W15FS or CS. The W15 units have an effective cone area (Sd) of 99 sq.in. The CS (cloth annulus) is slightly larger due to the less porous felt offering some radiation whereas the foam offers little to none due to it open cell nature. Either one is considerably smaller in area than a standard 15 incher with its 133 sq.in. area. The W12FS has an Sd of 71 sq.in. The effect of the ten inch unit being wired in parallel to either the W12 or W15 would increase the output a little. Having Bass Box Pro (BBP) surely simplified the choice of woofer although still very time consuming as the latest Thiele-Small parameters had to be entered manually from published data files. To simulate the open back which has no actual volume, an enclosure size of 20 cubic feet was used in BBP. This was found to be a practical limit allowing for baffle and floor reflections. There was a low amplitude bump around 10hz which vanished if the box volume entered approached 100 cubic feet. That would essentially simulate the speaker in free air, no baffle. The search considered high frequency output of the fifteen so as to negate the need of a low pass filter. The normalised and custom responses of BBP were also considered. Power handling capacity was considered at a practical 200 watts but some had power ratings as high as 500 watts. Cost was kept at $100 or lower, per unit. Only one driver out of over a dozen seemed to give me that for which I was looking, a duplicate to the W15. Both the W15 and the others were limited to 50 watts as that will affect the Custom Amplitude Responses. The W12 used was never taken above 45 watts (rms) using a scope and that was assuming a 15 ohms load. Actually, at those low frequencies, the impedance is considerably higher than nominal so the power transferred was actually much less. The W12 cone excursion was around 4mm, never bottoming or making sounds as if the cone were buckling, usually heard as a snap or cack, a sharper sound that that made by the coil form striking the rear plate. Of the W15 units of which I have several, two are as close to a perfect match as one can get, so they were used in BBP as the reference. The speaker that matched the W15s was the PA380-8 by Dayton, available at Parts Express (P-E) for a modest $80. Their stock number is 295-034.
The Squawker This unit was a little easier to find as the main concern was the high frequency response. As can be seen on the SFB3 web site, many ten inch units have a rise in output above 2 khz, some as high as several dB and over an octave in width. The SFB10 is no exception although not so bad. Initially, guitar ten inch units were considered as low frequency response was of minimal concern but damn near all had that nasty peak in the upper register. I realise that musicians want that as the speaker is part of their instrument. They are the artists so they can choose their preferred sound. In designing a sound reproduction system, a speaker as close to neutral as possible is preferred. OK. Personal preference is allowed. After all, sound reproduction is very subjective. Eventually, the search was narrowed down to 5 drivers. Two Daytons, two Celestions and a Faital. Despite my attraction to Daytons, their high frequency output between 4khz and 5khz peaking at about 4.2khz by several dB kind of disturbs me. That coupled with the rather slow roll-off from 5khz to 8khz compounds that concern. So, they are being kept on a back burner. One may survive the criteria if for no other reason than to try it, finances permitting. The two Daytons are P-E stock numbers 295-030 and 295-532, the latter being preferred. Of the two Celestions, one seems a very likely candidate. Their P-E stock numbers are 294-2066 and 294-2070. Here is a dichotomy. The 2027 response falls quickly after 5khz but has a nasty peak around 12khz. The 2066 response falls quickly after 7khz and has a lesser nasty peak around 12khz. One would think that a low pass filter at 5khz or maybe even 4khz would suppress that peak, but experience has proven that not to be necessarily true. Of these two, the 2066 is preferred. See photos 13 & 14. https://www.ln271828.net/bostwickfountekvifa.html That system required a weird stunt to eliminate the effect of that peak. The mid-range cuts off at just under 3khz and the tweeter comes in around 8khz, using second order filters. The resultant response can be seen in photo 16 here. https://www.ln271828.net/bostwickfountekvifa.html The two Celestions also rest on a not so far back burner. They are competing with the Faital, P-E stock number 294-1201. This fella also has a 12khz peak about 7dB below that at 3khz, 3dB higher than the Celestion 2066 whose 12khz peak is 10 dB below that at 3khz. So, it's a toss-up between the Celestion 204-2066 and the Faital 294-1201. The peak at 12khz seems common to just about every 10 inch unit I've observed within that price range and power handling capacity, the latter being one parameter that can increase a price tag.
The Tweeter There are several tweeters here of various manufacturers and types. Some are soft dome, ceramic dome, horn and ribbon. All will be examined before making a purchase. I've used the ribbons which are flat within 5dB to 40khz, the Beston RT002A (P-E# 277-112) Its sensitivity is also a modest 92dB, 1w1m. They also have a di-polar tweeter for the same price with the same response. (P-E# 277-116) I wonder how much difference there is in their sound. May be time for a double blind test.
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The Usual Suspects
The W15CS-TJ (left) and the W15CS-OOC (right)
I still have about 4 of the old cones stashed away. They came from speakers that had cone & coil replacements using new assemblies I imported from England in the early 70's.
The foam used for those annuli doesn't rot. It is now October, 2018 and those annuli are still like new after 46 years.
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Comparing the Wharfedale W15 to the Dayton DC380 This speaker, the Dayton DC380 hasn't yet been auditioned for a very good reason, I don't have one, YET. However, IMHO, it seems worthy enough to make a purchase of two along with a pair of tens, most likely the Faital 10FE200 |
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1, 2, 3
Of these three designs, 2 and 3 are those of a W15CS-OOC and a W15CS-TJ. Both have original cones and annuli, the OOC having an older style cone with 6 ribs evenly spaced while the TJ has 10 ribs in decreasing spacing from the apex to the annulus. Both W15s are 15 ohms and the Dayton DC380-8 is 8 ohms. The Normalized Amplitude Response (NAR) shows the identical W15s, green and blue and the Dayton, yellow. This compares the relative responses of the units. The next one, Custom Amplitude Response (CAR) compares their actual SPL at 1m with 50 watts applied. The larger cone area of the Dayton is the primary reason for the increased low frequency output. The quicker high frequency roll-off is due to the higher inductance of the its voice coil. The Maximum Acoustic Power, (MAP) shows the relative outputs at 1m with the diaphragm excursion within Xmax. Here again, the Dayton performs better due to the larger cone area being 30 sq.in. larger, about 33%. The Maximum Electrical Input Power (MEIP) shows the maximum electrical power applied before the diaphragm reaches Xmax. (continued under design tables) Figure 1 Cone Displacement (CD) is how far the cone will move in one direction with 50 watts applied. System Impedance (Z) should be obvious and interesting. Many assume the nominal impedance when calculating power. Even with a scope, despite that the bass may be driving the trace larger in amplitude than the rest of the music, the actual power delivered can be very small, comparatively speaking. Let's assume 20 volts applied at 500hz. Here, all drivers are close to 10 ohms, therefore 40W is delivered to the Dayton and the W15. Assuming an 8 ohm load for the Dayton would erroneously say 50 watts and assuming 15 ohms for the W15 would erroneously say 26.6W. Now, at 40hz, that same 20 volts will produce 26.6W to the Dayton (it's 15 ohms at 40hz) but only 8.9W to the W15s (it's 45 ohms at 40hz)
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Entr'acte
These fellas have been hiding in their shipping cartons for eight years.
The 10" MCM
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The 12" MCM
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Comparing the Wharfedale W15 to the MCM 55-2982
The complete line of MCM speakers can be found a few lines down. Read the reviews as some of these speakers are incredible to the point of being too good to be true. I have four eights, four tens and two twelves. I bought them around 8 years ago when they were on sale. They're still available along with new additions to the product line.
These twelves worked quite well in the open back similar to the W12FS with the exception of the very low end, below 40hz. The W12 seemed to give better results there with the handicap of limited power handling. At 45 watts, the diaphragm excursion was around 2mm, meaning a mere boost of 6dB in the bass would drive it to Xmax, 4mm. This is risky for a 60+ year old speaker as the adhesives have aged. I had a Wharfedale Co-axial 12 unravel its voice coil under similar circumstances. That unfortunate experience is related at this link to my website.
The MCM units, however, held their own well with a 200 watt Adcom arc welder. The bass was tighter than the W12, especially that from a kick drum.
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Normalised Amplitude Responses for the W12 (1), the MCM 12 (2), the
DC380 (3), and two W15s (4&5) normalised for 4608 cubic feet, the
volume of my adjoining living room and dining room, an open back
simulation; in other words, open air.
It is true that the volume of the open back is essentially a partially enclosed space created by the floor behind the baffle and the two sides, but its effect on the loading of the speaker is negligible, although odd. Thos oddity was noticed in two impedance curves, one with the speaker in free air, facing forward and another in the SFB enclosure, also facing forward. Now, one would expect the impedance to rise due to the loading of the air that is seemingly trapped in the chamber behind the speaker. This is true of any sensibly sized closed box but is this SFB really closed? It's more like a vented box with a very large area vent and a vent will split the point of resonance of the speaker in free air into two smaller resonant points, one below and one above the free air resonant frequency. But, this large vent splits that free air resonant point into two very close points that interfere, resulting in a single resonant point. That's my theory and until a better one comes along, I'm stuck with it. Another way possibly detect the two resonant points may be by using a sensitive ammeter. With a constant voltage applied to the voice coil, as the impedance rises, the current will drop. The measured impedances are: free air 21.643 ohms @ 124.1hz in SFB 19.457 ohms @ 113.3hz With 0.5v applied, the currents would be in free air, 0.0231A and in SFB, 0.0256A. The difference being 0.0025A can be detected with my Fluke bench meter. A scope would be used to measure the phase shift. Remember, for an AC circuit, Ohm's Law for current becomes E/Z = I cos q
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| Custom Amplitude Response (CAR) compares their actual SPL at
1m with 50 watts applied.
The extended high frequency response of the W12 (red) is due to lower voice coil inductance and the lighter cone and coil mass as compared to the others. These curves are all determined from the Thiele-Small parameters and therefore, are theoretical. The W15 can perform well up to 5khz. (See curves 18 & 20 in Fig.5)
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available, a modern substitute has been found, This is not to say
that this substitute is the only one but it is modestly priced at $72
from Parts Express. https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dc380-8-15-classic-woofer--295-325
As for the ten inch squawker (midrange) see the section above titled The Squawker. There's a few suggestions there at modest prices. The 55-1555 works very well. Other ten inch units I found to work well can be seen in the section above tithed The Squawker. Those units can be found at Parts Express and their stock numbers are provided. |
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Above 300hz, the responses are 1w1m, gated. Below 300hz, the responses are near field. The curve pairs are as follows. Near field, left of 300hz; 1w1m, right of 300hz 15 blue - 14 red; 17 lilac (violet) - 16 fuchsia (hot pink); 19 gold - 18 khaki (olive green); 21 light pink - 20 black The 10 inch MCM (55-1555A hot pink 16) does well to about 5khz. What is surprising is how well the W15s performed 5khz, which prompted the test shown in fig. (next)
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Figure 6a (with and without the ten)
The green trace, 29 is that of the W15, MCM 10 and the Beston ribbon tweeter.
The blue trace, 31 is with the 10 inch unit disconnected. An impedance check (traces 28 & 30, fig 6b next) was run again so power to the two way system without the 10 could be more closely matched to that of the three way. The impedance of the two way is around 14 ohms while that of the 3 way is around 5.5 ohms, This is due to the parallel connection of the 10 and 15 inch units.
Despite that the responses with and without the ten inch unit look remarkably the same, keep in mind that the LMS is "looking" at one frequency at a time and that frequency is band pass filtered at 24dB/octave. This is a good example of how a frequency response curve, although quite flat, gives little indication of how the system will "sound". A listening test was done using Willie Nelson's version of City of New Orleans I love that songn and although I do have a 45 rpm of the original by Arlo Guthrie, it isn't as pristine as when new. Willie's version came from a CD.
The sound of the two way was good but id didn't take long before it was felt that something was missing. A second audition made that apparent; the midrange lacked a certain presence. This is due to the interaction of the sound from the ten mixing with that of the 15 on the low end and the Beston on the high end. The actual insertion/removal of the 10, as far as SPL goes is negligible. The difference corrected for by adjusting the power for the different system impedances was to compensate for power transfer which would affect overall SPL more that the actual addition of the ten. (See the diatribe at the bottom of this page)
Note: The red trace (32) was run after running the blue one (31) because I doubted that which I was seeing. The differences between 29 and 32 are due to when LMS takes its sample. All are run from 20khz to 300hz with 300 samples but exactly how the system takes these samples each time may be different. This is NOT a gated sweep so room acoustics have a strong influence on the traces. While that may seem to denigrate the accuracy of the LMS, it's more accurate than that. (See the second diatribe below the first diatribe at the bottom of this page.)

Figure 6b
Impedance of the two way system vs the three way.

Figure 7
This set of traces shows difference between 11ft and 8ft. At 11ft, the mic is about 63" high, the height of my ears above the floor when standing. At 8ft, the mic is 35" above the floor, the height of my ears when seated. This seated distance is considered close to that which anyone would most likely sit from their speakers.
These curves don't reflect the 6dB rule which states that the SPL changes by 6dB when the distance is halved or doubled. The differences here are influenced by the room reflections. The above stated rule applies to half space radiation, a hemisphere, 2p steradians and no reflecting boundaries.
If these response curves were gated above 300hz, the two traces would differ by 2.77dB, the result of moving the mic 3 ft closer to the source. the gating very effectively removes the reflections as the mic is turned OFF before the reflection from that tone gets to it. Due to the longer wavelengths below 300hz, the mic can't get a good enough sample before the nearest reflection arrives.

Figure 8a
The Super 3 (red) vs the Beston (blue). The audible difference shown here is quite noticeable, especially at SPL levels above 90dB. One of my friends who is 20 years my junior actually covered his ears when I cranked the system to about 93dB. At first I thought it was the high SPL and the possibility of his ears being more sensitive than mine. By sensitive I don't mean he can hear higher than I can but rather that his perception of loud is lower than mine. This became evident when I replaced the Super 3 with the Beston and played the same song at the same 93dB. He covered his ears again so it was more likely the SPL and not the frequencies between 7khz and 10khz that rattled his ears.

Figure 8b
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green trace, 29, is the same as that in Fig.7. It was measured
with the SFB on the left side of the room. The red trace, 41, was
run with the SFB on the right side of the room, where there is no
supporting corner. This appears evident from 100hz and lower
although the dip around 125hz has now inverted itself.
The purple trace is the sum of the other two, It's 3dB higher because XdB + XdB = X+3dB. I left it there for clarification purposes. It doesn't necessarily resemble a trace with two SFBs but when I get the second one built, that will be clarified and added here. |

Photo 7 Photo 8
Two views of the location from which the red curve in Fig. 8b was derived. The opening to the kitchens is 44 inches wide.
Photo 9
From the top, the Beston RT002A, MCM 55-1555, Wharfedale W15CS
Figure 9
This display was created from a PicoScope Model 2205A.
My most recent purchase, mainly for the spectrum analyser. It's also a function genny, dual trace scope and has a persistence mode by which means one can capture a sweep and save it in any of a dozen formats.
The deck of cards was placed there for scaling.
Photo 10
City of New Orleans - Willie Nelson
94dB @ 8ft about 23W
The PicoScope in persistence mode for about a minute while playing that song. The peak voltage levels are about 16V, which is 11.3V rms. That equates to about 23 watts into 5.5 ohms, the nominal impedance of the system, neglecting phase shift correction. The SPL was measured around 91dB to 94dB at 8 feet. This equates to about 85dB with 3 watts and 80dB at 1 watt, in that room at 8ft from the speakers. Half that distance would increase the SPL by about 2dB to 3dB, not 6dB as this is a highly reverberant field, not free space so the 6dB change by halving or doubling the distance no longer applies.

The diatribe at the bottom of this page.
Lt = 10 log(10L1/10 + 10L2/10 + ... + 10Ln/10) eq.1
where Lt is the sum of L1 + L2 + ... + Ln
Let L1 = 91dB and L2 = 89dB (the sensitivities of the MCM10 and W15
By eq.1, we have 10 log(109.1 + 108.9) = 10 log(2053253647) = 93.124dB
which is 2.124dB above the louder MCM. The removal or insertion of the ten here results in a difference in SPL of about 2dB, which is barely perceptible, especially at levels around 85dB with music. With a pure sine wave tone, it becomes much easier. Some claim to be able to perceive a difference of 1dB or less under the latter condition.
Had both speakers had the same sensitivity, the resultant difference would have been 3dB, assuming, of course, both speakers were getting the same power.
So, here we have two radically different speakers. The MCM with a nominal impedance of about 6 ohms and the W15 around 14 ohms. At any given frequency and voltage between about 400hz and 4000hz applied to the parallel pair where the difference in impedances is close to constant, the difference in this case would amount to about 2dB to 4dB
An experience I had decades ago is worthy of mention. While testing a JBL-077 tweeter, I noticed a constant wow-wow effect not caused by my body movements; it persisted when I was as still as possible. The effect was traced to the ceiling fan which was rotating. Initially I suspected the 60hz hum from the motor but the wow-wow was much slower than 60hz. After turning off the fan, the wow-wow frequency decreased as the fan slowed and stopped when the fan stopped. The blades were upsetting the static reverberant field created by the tweeter.
The second diatribe at the bottom of this page.
During one of my sweep tests, I noticed a difference in the two curves. Being under the impression that both were run under the same conditions, which is tantamount to an assumption, further investigation was necessary. It was discovered that while checking the connections to the speakers which were alligator (or crocodile) clips, a chair that was against the table was moved away from the table. As Murphy would have it, it was inadvertently placed midway between the speakers and the mic. This chair has a naugahyde (artificial leather) seat and is highly reflective. Being midway between the speaker and mic exacerbated the effect.
Since this was a continuous sweep, the reflection was picked up by the mic. The mic wouldn't have "heard" the reflection had a gated sweep been performed. The use of a continuous sweep was to find out how the system would perform in this room, where they will be located. Also, a gated sweep would have been good only to about 300hz.
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